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[Tom]

MP, NV vs Vul, 3rd chair, you hold: A Q84 K109543 AK2. Bidding proceeds:

P P 1D 4H

P P ?

Tom Reid

[Player]

Post by Tom
P P 1D 4H
P P ?
Tom Reid

Opp bid 4H vul, so is serious about this. I pass. Double may well be right though.

[Dave Flower]

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Post by Tom
P P 1D 4H
P P ?
Tom Reid

Opp bid 4H vul, so is serious about this. I pass. Double may well be right though.

Close between pass and double.

Double has the advantage that partner may pull to 5D, with a prospective +550

Dave Flower

[Con Reeder, unhyphenated American]

Post by Tom
P P 1D 4H
P P ?

PASS. It is tempting to try and get 200, but I see no reason why I am
beating this. Opponent knew he was vul.

[Tom]

Post by Tom
P P 1D 4H
P P ?
Tom Reid

This was BBO ACBL speedball.

Pard had KQ765 T53 J3 J63 and bid 4S (doubled) which would have gone for
300. I pulled to 5D and went for 500. Both 0%. 4H goes for 500 and
96.1%. Pass was 63.5%. Sigh.

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Post by Tom

Post by Tom
P P 1D 4H
P P ?
Tom Reid

This was BBO ACBL speedball.
Pard had KQ765 T53 J3 J63 and bid 4S (doubled) which would have gone for
300. I pulled to 5D and went for 500. Both 0%. 4H goes for 500 and
96.1%. Pass was 63.5%. Sigh.

Can a passed hand *ever* bid 4 voluntarily over a pre-empt?

Carl

[KWSchneider]

Post by Tom

Post by Tom
P P 1D 4H
P P ?
Tom Reid

This was BBO ACBL speedball.
Pard had KQ765 T53 J3 J63 and bid 4S (doubled) which would have gone for
300. I pulled to 5D and went for 500. Both 0%. 4H goes for 500 and
96.1%. Pass was 63.5%. Sigh.

A double by you is asking for a spade bid from partner - you have one, 4H bidder should have at most three, so that leaves your partner and LHO to split nine of them. Even with four spades, he'll trot out 4S.

[Player]

Post by KWSchneider

Post by Tom

Post by Tom
P P 1D 4H
P P ?
Tom Reid

This was BBO ACBL speedball.
Pard had KQ765 T53 J3 J63 and bid 4S (doubled) which would have gone for
300. I pulled to 5D and went for 500. Both 0%. 4H goes for 500 and
96.1%. Pass was 63.5%. Sigh.

A double by you is asking for a spade bid from partner - you have one, 4H bidder should have at most three, so that leaves your partner and LHO to split nine of them. Even with four spades, he'll trot out 4S.
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Exactly. Why do you not expect 4S?

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Post by Tom
P P 1D 4H
P P ?
Tom Reid

This was BBO ACBL speedball.
Pard had KQ765 T53 J3 J63 and bid 4S (doubled) which would have gone for
300. I pulled to 5D and went for 500. Both 0%. 4H goes for 500 and
96.1%. Pass was 63.5%. Sigh.

Ah. I thought you said partner bid 4S in front of you.

Carl

[Lorne]

Post by Tom
P P 1D 4H
P P ?
Tom Reid

If the oppo are sensible they think 4H is at least close to making at
this vul so I would assume declarer has the diamond ace in which case
there is no entry to dummy and you should make a spade+heart+2xclubs so
I think a double is right.

If it makes (ie declarer has singleton club and running spades after
your ace as a side suit) then bad luck but partner may pull to 5C if
that is the hand and I expect to make that or get very close.

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Pass, seems like all the cards lie well for the opponents. There may be 3 Heart losers if we play in Diamonds. I may have 3 quick tricks against 4H, but I will probably get a Diamond lead.