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The Last of Tonight's Hands -- Response to a 1C Opening
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P***@yahoo.com
2016-08-10 03:26:42 UTC
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Matchpoint Pairs, Favorable Vulnerability

You are in third seat, and partner opens 1C. You play "standard 2/1," with inverted minors (forcing through 2N) and you also play Splinter.

You have:

S: 5
H: A2
D: KJ953
C: K8654

What is your response?
Douglas Newlands
2016-08-10 03:53:04 UTC
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Post by P***@yahoo.com
Matchpoint Pairs, Favorable Vulnerability
You are in third seat, and partner opens 1C. You play "standard 2/1," with inverted minors (forcing through 2N) and you also play Splinter.
S: 5
H: A2
D: KJ953
C: K8654
What is your response?
How many clubs does 1C show?
I'm intending bidding 1D then 3C but and interested
in how the 2C responders see it going since that seems to suppress the
diamond suit.

doug
P***@yahoo.com
2016-08-10 10:58:36 UTC
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Post by Douglas Newlands
Post by P***@yahoo.com
Matchpoint Pairs, Favorable Vulnerability
You are in third seat, and partner opens 1C. You play "standard 2/1," with inverted minors (forcing through 2N) and you also play Splinter.
S: 5
H: A2
D: KJ953
C: K8654
What is your response?
How many clubs does 1C show?
I'm intending bidding 1D then 3C but and interested
in how the 2C responders see it going since that seems to suppress the
diamond suit.
doug
1C shows at least three clubs, in our style.
Fred.
2016-08-10 15:13:57 UTC
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Post by Douglas Newlands
Post by P***@yahoo.com
Matchpoint Pairs, Favorable Vulnerability
You are in third seat, and partner opens 1C. You play "standard 2/1," with inverted minors (forcing through 2N) and you also play Splinter.
S: 5
H: A2
D: KJ953
C: K8654
What is your response?
How many clubs does 1C show?
I'm intending bidding 1D then 3C but and interested
in how the 2C responders see it going since that seems to suppress the
diamond suit.
doug
I'm used to playing an inverted minor where opener's
first rebid distinguishes between minimums and extras.
In that case I have no problem at match points raising
to 2C, consigning the hand to a club part score if opener
is minimum, and showing the diamonds as a fragment or
better, if partner has extras. This reserves the delayed
club raise for a hand, just short of a SJS with the likes
of AKJxx of diamonds as well as club support.

However, I think the poster's partnership shows major suit
stoppers first. This this may be reasonable playing a
15 to 17 notrump, but makes 2C on this hand very awkward.
Therefore, in that partnership the delayed raise must be
made with weaker diamonds.

Fred.
t***@att.net
2016-08-10 04:07:14 UTC
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Post by P***@yahoo.com
Matchpoint Pairs, Favorable Vulnerability
You are in third seat, and partner opens 1C. You play "standard 2/1," with inverted minors (forcing through 2N) and you also play Splinter.
S: 5
H: A2
D: KJ953
C: K8654
What is your response?
1D followed by Clubs at whatever level. I assume that 1C does show at least 3.
Ronald
2016-08-10 09:03:56 UTC
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Post by P***@yahoo.com
Matchpoint Pairs, Favorable Vulnerability
You are in third seat, and partner opens 1C. You play "standard 2/1,"
with inverted minors (forcing through 2N) and you also play Splinter.
S: 5
H: A2
D: KJ953
C: K8654
What is your response?
Easy: 1D
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Ronald
Player
2016-08-10 11:38:40 UTC
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Post by P***@yahoo.com
Matchpoint Pairs, Favorable Vulnerability
You are in third seat, and partner opens 1C. You play "standard 2/1," with inverted minors (forcing through 2N) and you also play Splinter.
S: 5
H: A2
D: KJ953
C: K8654
What is your response?
1D
KWSchneider
2016-08-10 16:30:35 UTC
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Post by P***@yahoo.com
Matchpoint Pairs, Favorable Vulnerability
You are in third seat, and partner opens 1C. You play "standard 2/1," with inverted minors (forcing through 2N) and you also play Splinter.
S: 5
H: A2
D: KJ953
C: K8654
What is your response?
My concern with a 1D response is that you want to play in clubs (partner has to have more clubs than diamonds and this hand screams for a suit contract, possibly a slam) so why waste his time showing the table his 4c majors? Also, bidding 1D does nothing but let LHO bid 2M and cram things before you can tell your partner about your stength.

My bid is 2C followed by a diamond reverse. So something like:
1C 2C 2M/2N 3D would get the point across.

Kurt
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Tom
2016-08-11 00:28:28 UTC
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Post by P***@yahoo.com
Matchpoint Pairs, Favorable Vulnerability
You are in third seat, and partner opens 1C. You play "standard 2/1,"
with inverted minors (forcing through 2N) and you also play Splinter.
S: 5
H: A2
D: KJ953
C: K8654
What is your response?
1C p 1D p
? p p 3C shows a C LR and fits this hand nicely.

Tom Reid
Lorne Anderson
2016-08-11 10:52:10 UTC
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Post by P***@yahoo.com
Matchpoint Pairs, Favorable Vulnerability
You are in third seat, and partner opens 1C. You play "standard 2/1," with inverted minors (forcing through 2N) and you also play Splinter.
S: 5
H: A2
D: KJ953
C: K8654
What is your response?
1D followed by 3C.
s***@gmail.com
2016-08-11 19:56:10 UTC
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Post by P***@yahoo.com
Matchpoint Pairs, Favorable Vulnerability
You are in third seat, and partner opens 1C. You play "standard 2/1," with inverted minors (forcing through 2N) and you also play Splinter.
S: 5
H: A2
D: KJ953
C: K8654
What is your response?
2C (Inverted), Followed by 3S (Splinter).
rhm
2016-08-13 10:10:50 UTC
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Post by P***@yahoo.com
Matchpoint Pairs, Favorable Vulnerability
You are in third seat, and partner opens 1C. You play "standard 2/1," with inverted minors (forcing through 2N) and you also play Splinter.
S: 5
H: A2
D: KJ953
C: K8654
What is your response?
I have given up playing direct splinters over 1C, because the hands suitable for them are rare.
However, if you do, I would always bid 3S here, showing at least 5 clubs and denying a 4 card heart suit and therefore by implication at least 9 cards in the minors.
If partner is unsuitable we may have no game, but I am not prepared to give up on game no matter how the bidding goes after 1c by partner.
If we do have game, partner is in a very good position to judge the proper one after splinter and we could easily have slam without the usually required quota of points even for game, say partner holds 3 aces, a weak notrump with a 5 card club suit.
p***@infi.net
2016-08-13 15:07:17 UTC
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Post by rhm
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Matchpoint Pairs, Favorable Vulnerability
You are in third seat, and partner opens 1C. You play "standard 2/1," with inverted minors (forcing through 2N) and you also play Splinter.
S: 5
H: A2
D: KJ953
C: K8654
What is your response?
I have given up playing direct splinters over 1C, because the hands suitable for them are rare.
However, if you do, I would always bid 3S here, showing at least 5 clubs and denying a 4 card heart suit and therefore by implication at least 9 cards in the minors.
If partner is unsuitable we may have no game, but I am not prepared to give up on game no matter how the bidding goes after 1c by partner.
If we do have game, partner is in a very good position to judge the proper one after splinter and we could easily have slam without the usually required quota of points even for game, say partner holds 3 aces, a weak notrump with a 5 card club suit.
My problem with splintering here is that I won't know what to do if partner rebids 3NT -- this just doesn't look like enough for game anywhere on that bidding if partner has 12 hcp. I'd rather bid 2C to learn more about opener's hand. If opener rebids 2NT I'll retreat to 3C. If opener bids a new suit I play that as 13+ hcp and I can move toward game. If opener rebids 3C I will take it we have a strong fit and now 5C seems plausible.

I specify 13-15 hcp for minor suit splinters, enough to be comfortable passing 3NT and enough to make 5C plausible despite mild wastage.
t***@att.net
2016-08-13 12:57:30 UTC
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Are direct splinters worthwhile over any opening one-bid? I've been playing Void and Splinter Showing Bids (double jump=void, jump above double raise=relay with singleton), but perhaps some other use for the double jump would be more effective. (This probably needs a separate thread to avoid hijacking the OP).
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