(Out of the blue) double of 3N?

[Kenny McCormack]

Consider this auction:

P 1N P 3N
X (all pass)

Partner has passed, then doubles 3N. This must be conventional in some way.

What do you lead?

[Player]

There are 2 views. Lead your shortest suit with no honours. Lead a spade. Some players only use the second method.

[Kenny McCormack]

Post by Player
There are 2 views. Lead your shortest suit with no honours. Lead a spade. Some
players only use the second method.

Well, now isn't this funny? I always thought it was "lead a club", but
we've had a response saying it is "lead a heart" (referencing the no-doubt
fictitious "Elwood Convention") and here we have a response saying it means
"lead a spade".

Are we going to hear from the diamond contingent anytime soon?

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Post by Kenny McCormack

Post by Player
There are 2 views. Lead your shortest suit with no honours. Lead a spade. Some
players only use the second method.

Well, now isn't this funny? I always thought it was "lead a club", but
we've had a response saying it is "lead a heart" (referencing the no-doubt
fictitious "Elwood Convention") and here we have a response saying it means
"lead a spade".
Are we going to hear from the diamond contingent anytime soon?
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There is a reason for it to mean "lead a club." With any other suit, you could have opened 2. But that is a passed-hand issue.

In the 70s, there was a "Fisher double": Lead a diamond if Stayman had been used, but a club if Stayman had not been used. The rationale, that you might be the only table where responder avoided Stayman, would be another reason for clubs here.

Carl

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Post by Kenny McCormack

Post by Player
There are 2 views. Lead your shortest suit with no honours. Lead a spade. Some
players only use the second method.

Well, now isn't this funny? I always thought it was "lead a club", but
we've had a response saying it is "lead a heart" (referencing the no-doubt
fictitious "Elwood Convention") and here we have a response saying it means
"lead a spade".
Are we going to hear from the diamond contingent anytime soon?
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There is a reason for it to mean "lead a club." With any other suit, you could have opened 2. But that is a passed-hand issue.
In the 70s, there was a "Fisher double": Lead a diamond if Stayman had been used, but a club if Stayman had not been used. The rationale, that you might be the only table where responder avoided Stayman, would be another reason for clubs here.
Carl

I've also heard "Lead a club" and I never knew there was any logic behind it. Cool!

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Post by Kenny McCormack
P 1N P 3N
X (all pass)
Partner has passed, then doubles 3N. This must be conventional in some way.
What do you lead?

Elwood convention. Lead a heart. But it's hard to make sense of the double by a passed hand. Perhaps xx AKQJx xxx xxx ? Not vul I'd certainly open 2H, but perhaps partner thinks that bid requires six.

[t***@att.net]

I've always heard this as suggesting the lead of a Heart. The reasoning is that with Majors, there may have been a Stayman or other Major suit try. A sequence of 1NT-3NT would generally mean either balanced or Minor suit oriented. The lack of a Double suggests a Spade lead. Of course the Double could suggest that Game is going down regardless and the lack of a double suggests a lack of opinion.

[jogs]

Post by Kenny McCormack
P 1N P 3N
X (all pass)
Partner has passed, then doubles 3N. This must be conventional in some way.
What do you lead?

Where's adjective bridge, when you need it?

[Co Wiersma]

Post by Kenny McCormack
P 1N P 3N
X (all pass)
Partner has passed, then doubles 3N. This must be conventional in some way.
What do you lead?

As long as the partnership did not agree on a special meaning, its just
an ordinary penalty double
Prolly something like
xxx
xxx
AKQJx
xx
And you have to guess what suit partner has

Co Wiersma

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Post by Co Wiersma

Post by Kenny McCormack
P 1N P 3N
X (all pass)
Partner has passed, then doubles 3N. This must be conventional in some way.
What do you lead?

As long as the partnership did not agree on a special meaning, its just
an ordinary penalty double
Prolly something like
xxx
xxx
AKQJx
xx
And you have to guess what suit partner has
Co Wiersma

This hand *might* have opened 2D. But if the suit were clubs....

Carl

[Kenny McCormack]

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Post by Co Wiersma

Post by Kenny McCormack
P 1N P 3N
X (all pass)
Partner has passed, then doubles 3N. This must be conventional in some way.
What do you lead?

As long as the partnership did not agree on a special meaning, its just
an ordinary penalty double
Prolly something like
xxx
xxx
AKQJx
xx
And you have to guess what suit partner has
Co Wiersma

This hand *might* have opened 2D. But if the suit were clubs....
Carl

You can assume that your side is playing strong 2s, so no weak 2 was
available.