John McAllister's Bridge Podcast - "The Setting Trick"

[Adam Wildavsky]

You can find the podcast at

http://thesettingtrick.libsyn.com/

or download episodes from your favorite podcast player.

The first five episodes feature interviews with:
. Gavin Wolpert
. Bob Hamman
. Migry Zur Campanile
. Zack Grossack
. Adam Wildavsky plus Zia

That fifth episode must be really hot! Simply posting a link to it got me banned from a bridge discussion site. You can find the full story on my blog:

http://adamsbridgeblog.blogspot.com/

One upside of the ban it that it helps me appreciate r.g.b. all the more.

[n***@gmail.com]

Great series, thanks for the tip!

Post by Adam Wildavsky
You can find the podcast at
http://thesettingtrick.libsyn.com/
or download episodes from your favorite podcast player.
. Gavin Wolpert
. Bob Hamman
. Migry Zur Campanile
. Zack Grossack
. Adam Wildavsky plus Zia
http://adamsbridgeblog.blogspot.com/
One upside of the ban it that it helps me appreciate r.g.b. all the more.

[reilloc]

Post by Adam Wildavsky
You can find the podcast at
http://thesettingtrick.libsyn.com/
or download episodes from your favorite podcast player.
. Gavin Wolpert
. Bob Hamman
. Migry Zur Campanile
. Zack Grossack
. Adam Wildavsky plus Zia
http://adamsbridgeblog.blogspot.com/
One upside of the ban it that it helps me appreciate r.g.b. all the more.

This fifth episode contains extraneous, non-bridge, bullshit from some
fringe lunatic trying to inject his harebrained political agenda. A ban
from a website is too light a sanction.

LNC

[Adam Wildavsky]

Don’t be shy - tell us what you really think!

BridgeWinners shut down the discussion before I was able to ask what people found triggering, and it seemed clear that some of those who complained had not listened to the podcast. What specifically did you object to?

- Adam

[reilloc]

Post by Adam Wildavsky
Don’t be shy - tell us what you really think!
BridgeWinners shut down the discussion before I was able to ask what people found triggering, and it seemed clear that some of those who complained had not listened to the podcast. What specifically did you object to?
- Adam

It's probably the quaint notion that there's a way to eliminate emotion
from personal existence. You know, the kind of guy who pretends he wants
to discuss rationally so he feints starting a conversation with a modern
inflammatory participle in order to inflame sentiment.

That's the transparency of autism.

LNC

[Adam Wildavsky]

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Post by Adam Wildavsky
Don’t be shy - tell us what you really think!
BridgeWinners shut down the discussion before I was able to ask what people found triggering, and it seemed clear that some of those who complained had not listened to the podcast. What specifically did you object to?
- Adam

It's probably the quaint notion that there's a way to eliminate emotion
from personal existence. You know, the kind of guy who pretends he wants
to discuss rationally so he feints starting a conversation with a modern
inflammatory participle in order to inflame sentiment.
That's the transparency of autism.
LNC

Did I say that? I certainly do not believe that it's so. Emotion is vitally important, both in life and in Bridge. In Bridge when one gets a feeling that a certain bid or play is correct it's a clue that the action should be considered. If there's sufficient time, though, it's always better to examine the merits of the action rationally, to determine whether the emotion is justified. In the terms introduced by Kahneman and Twersky, emotion comes from System 1, while cognition comes from System 2.

[reilloc]

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Post by Adam Wildavsky
Don’t be shy - tell us what you really think!
BridgeWinners shut down the discussion before I was able to ask what people found triggering, and it seemed clear that some of those who complained had not listened to the podcast. What specifically did you object to?
- Adam

It's probably the quaint notion that there's a way to eliminate emotion
from personal existence. You know, the kind of guy who pretends he wants
to discuss rationally so he feints starting a conversation with a modern
inflammatory participle in order to inflame sentiment.
That's the transparency of autism.
LNC

Did I say that? I certainly do not believe that it's so. Emotion is vitally important, both in life and in Bridge. In Bridge when one gets a feeling that a certain bid or play is correct it's a clue that the action should be considered. If there's sufficient time, though, it's always better to examine the merits of the action rationally, to determine whether the emotion is justified. In the terms introduced by Kahneman and Twersky, emotion comes from System 1, while cognition comes from System 2.

So, you feel like it's better to undertake some analysis by using a
process that extracts what you feel like from acting on how you feel and
there are a couple of guys who've got it all figured out who you feel
like are authoritative when it comes to articulating that mind and body
can exist separately.

Then I say go for it but do try not to pollute the discussion of bridge
with such mysticism and crackpotology.

LNC

[Adam Wildavsky]

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Post by Adam Wildavsky
Don’t be shy - tell us what you really think!
BridgeWinners shut down the discussion before I was able to ask what people found triggering, and it seemed clear that some of those who complained had not listened to the podcast. What specifically did you object to?
- Adam

It's probably the quaint notion that there's a way to eliminate emotion
from personal existence. You know, the kind of guy who pretends he wants
to discuss rationally so he feints starting a conversation with a modern
inflammatory participle in order to inflame sentiment.
That's the transparency of autism.
LNC

Did I say that? I certainly do not believe that it's so. Emotion is vitally important, both in life and in Bridge. In Bridge when one gets a feeling that a certain bid or play is correct it's a clue that the action should be considered. If there's sufficient time, though, it's always better to examine the merits of the action rationally, to determine whether the emotion is justified. In the terms introduced by Kahneman and Twersky, emotion comes from System 1, while cognition comes from System 2.

So, you feel like it's better to undertake some analysis by using a
process that extracts what you feel like from acting on how you feel and
there are a couple of guys who've got it all figured out who you feel
like are authoritative when it comes to articulating that mind and body
can exist separately.
Then I say go for it but do try not to pollute the discussion of bridge
with such mysticism and crackpotology.
LNC

I confused. Where did I advocate mysticism or mind/body dualism? I favor neither. I'm confident that neither would help improve one's bridge game.

[a***@yahoo.co.uk]

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Post by Adam Wildavsky
Don’t be shy - tell us what you really think!
BridgeWinners shut down the discussion before I was able to ask what people found triggering, and it seemed clear that some of those who complained had not listened to the podcast. What specifically did you object to?
- Adam

It's probably the quaint notion that there's a way to eliminate emotion
from personal existence. You know, the kind of guy who pretends he wants
to discuss rationally so he feints starting a conversation with a modern
inflammatory participle in order to inflame sentiment.
That's the transparency of autism.
LNC

Did I say that? I certainly do not believe that it's so. Emotion is vitally important, both in life and in Bridge. In Bridge when one gets a feeling that a certain bid or play is correct it's a clue that the action should be considered. If there's sufficient time, though, it's always better to examine the merits of the action rationally, to determine whether the emotion is justified. In the terms introduced by Kahneman and Twersky, emotion comes from System 1, while cognition comes from System 2.

I think emotion is important in some circumstances (specifically subjective situations or where logic and facts are insufficient to make an objective decision) highly overrated. Too many times stupid desicions are made because emotion overrides logic. That is why we have science as a means of obtaining the best estimate of the truth, rather than using superstition or religion as in the past. I wish humans were more like Vulcans. It make sme cringe when people appeal to their gut feeling because it worked once or twice in the past. Tell me honestly, how many times has it both worked and failed?

[Adam Wildavsky]

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Post by Adam Wildavsky
Don’t be shy - tell us what you really think!
BridgeWinners shut down the discussion before I was able to ask what people found triggering, and it seemed clear that some of those who complained had not listened to the podcast. What specifically did you object to?
- Adam

It's probably the quaint notion that there's a way to eliminate emotion
from personal existence. You know, the kind of guy who pretends he wants
to discuss rationally so he feints starting a conversation with a modern
inflammatory participle in order to inflame sentiment.
That's the transparency of autism.
LNC

Did I say that? I certainly do not believe that it's so. Emotion is vitally important, both in life and in Bridge. In Bridge when one gets a feeling that a certain bid or play is correct it's a clue that the action should be considered. If there's sufficient time, though, it's always better to examine the merits of the action rationally, to determine whether the emotion is justified. In the terms introduced by Kahneman and Twersky, emotion comes from System 1, while cognition comes from System 2.

I think emotion is important in some circumstances (specifically subjective situations or where logic and facts are insufficient to make an objective decision) highly overrated. Too many times stupid decisions are made because emotion overrides logic. That is why we have science as a means of obtaining the best estimate of the truth, rather than using superstition or religion as in the past. I wish humans were more like Vulcans. It make sme cringe when people appeal to their gut feeling because it worked once or twice in the past. Tell me honestly, how many times has it both worked and failed?

I don't care for Spock's approach of trying to suppress his human emotions. My favorite character was Data in ST:TNG, who wanted to experience emotions. In my view he did over time, though their causes were always rational. Witness, for instance, his desire to procreate.

In life, emotions are important because they help us identify our values. In Bridge, they are important for different reasons. Unlike life, in Bridge there's a rulebook that tells us our goal - achieve the highest score we can on a deal, or do as well as we can in the tournament while following the rules. In Bridge emotions fill two roles. They allow us to play quickly when necessary, and they provide clues as to where we should direct our cognition.

[Adam Wildavsky]

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Post by Adam Wildavsky
Don’t be shy - tell us what you really think!
BridgeWinners shut down the discussion before I was able to ask what people found triggering, and it seemed clear that some of those who complained had not listened to the podcast. What specifically did you object to?
- Adam

It's probably the quaint notion that there's a way to eliminate emotion
from personal existence. You know, the kind of guy who pretends he wants
to discuss rationally so he feints starting a conversation with a modern
inflammatory participle in order to inflame sentiment.
That's the transparency of autism.
LNC

You suggest I am insincere. All I can do is assert otherwise.

I think you dislike the term "triggering." I was looking for an alternative to "objectionable", so as to avoid an infelicitous repetition. Please substitute whatever term you deem non-inflammatory.

[Adam Wildavsky]

Episode six is now available. It features two interviews, one with Adam Grossack and one with Morris Jones.

http://thesettingtrick.libsyn.com/adam-grossack-mojo-0

[j***@gmail.com]

Post by Adam Wildavsky
You can find the podcast at
http://thesettingtrick.libsyn.com/
or download episodes from your favorite podcast player.
. Gavin Wolpert
. Bob Hamman
. Migry Zur Campanile
. Zack Grossack
. Adam Wildavsky plus Zia
http://adamsbridgeblog.blogspot.com/
One upside of the ban it that it helps me appreciate r.g.b. all the more.

Like most Silicon Valley-based sites, BridgeWinners is a Marxist Open Borders toxic feminist authoritarian safe-space. I've long wondered how people who behave so unethically "in real life" can be trusted to behave ethically when playing bridge.

To their credit, since banning me a couple of years ago, they've gone from censoring only conservative political opinions to censoring almost all non-bridge-related political discussions.

Is their behavior vile and contemptible? Certainly. But it's 2018 and in the current year, vile and contemptible behavior is celebrated.

(Oh, and objectivism is a despicable ideology, almost as bad as Marxism, but you should obviously, AT A MINIMUM, be able to whisper "I'd love to chat with people about this in another venue" without the BridgeSJWarriors Thought Police persecuting you.) Eugene is uniquely unfit to moderate an Internet forum (and I've seen some terrible moderation in my day,) but c'est la vie.)

[Jonathan Ferguson]

The frequent and random maniacal laughter of the host is offputting. But enough interesting content by the interviewees makes this worthwhile. Maybe the host will get better with practice.