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What does this mean?
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a***@yahoo.co.uk
2017-11-18 00:00:53 UTC
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Apparently I was supposed to work it out.

1C (1D) 1H P
2C P 2D P
3D P ?

What does 3D mean, and what would you respond with this hand:

No-one vuln, imp pairs.

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Co Wiersma
2017-11-18 02:11:06 UTC
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Post by a***@yahoo.co.uk
Apparently I was supposed to work it out.
1C (1D) 1H P
2C P 2D P
3D P ?
No-one vuln, imp pairs.
KJT
AJ964
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QJ95
I think it means "I do not know where to go either"
And now I have to choose between bidding 3H and 4C

So I think I bid 3H because it leaves so much more bidding space

Co Wiersma
Travis Crump
2017-11-18 03:20:53 UTC
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Post by a***@yahoo.co.uk
Apparently I was supposed to work it out.
1C (1D) 1H P
2C P 2D P
3D P ?
No-one vuln, imp pairs.
KJT
AJ964
9
QJ95
I think partner has a diamond stopper and is worried about spades for
3N. Usually partner denies a stopper to bid opponent's suit, but that is
because when the opponent's bid the auction is normally somewhat jammed.
Here it isn't. They could have always bid 3C if they wanted to stall. I
have a spade stopper, so I bid 3N. I'm not actually confident it will
make, but it seems as good as anything and more likely to make than any
other game.
Will in New Haven
2017-11-18 07:28:08 UTC
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Post by a***@yahoo.co.uk
Apparently I was supposed to work it out.
1C (1D) 1H P
2C P 2D P
3D P ?
No-one vuln, imp pairs.
KJT
AJ964
9
QJ95
I think it likely that partner has something in Diamonds but either thinks the hand might play better in NT from my side or is worried about Spades. In either case, we are in a game-force and I _could_ mark time with a 3H bid. However, the Club support is one reason I like this hand so much, so throwing caution, and no-trump, to the wind, I bid 4C.
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Will in Pompano
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a***@yahoo.co.uk
2017-11-18 08:40:48 UTC
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Well you all had more of a clue than I did, which was none. In the absence of a clue, and thinking it was game forcing, I bid 4C which was passed out and 12 tricks came in. Partner apparently intended her bid to show a diamond suit but a hand unsuitable for NT. Her hand was:

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Travis Crump
2017-11-18 18:57:02 UTC
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Didn't expect that exactly. Sounds like partner was a beginner and just
bidding diamonds naturally. There is no way he should even consider
passing 4C on that auction without even looking at his hand so it wasn't
your fault you weren't in game.
a***@yahoo.co.uk
2017-11-18 20:50:44 UTC
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Post by Travis Crump
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Didn't expect that exactly. Sounds like partner was a beginner and just
bidding diamonds naturally. There is no way he should even consider
passing 4C on that auction without even looking at his hand so it wasn't
your fault you weren't in game.
She is definitely not a beginner but very occasionally she does come out with some odd ideas. She tried to blame me by saying I should have been able to work out what her bid meant, and secondly that I should have just bid 5C instead of 4C, since she won't raise with a weak (in HCP) opening hand (I couldn't work out why 4C wasn't forcing in this auction). I just took the 'yeah, whatever' attitude and didn't attempt to discuss it further, since she said she was sticking to her guns whatever I said.
Sandy Barnes
2017-12-06 01:00:32 UTC
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When partner forces with a cue bid, he knows where he is going. If he is looking for a diamond stopper, he is expecting a no-trump call from you. From his side, you failed to rebid 1NT, and chose to show long clubs in place of Spades, No-trump, and raising hearts. Just rebid 2NT with the actual hand to show the diamond card(s). Partner knows that you resisted bidding 1NT with your first rebid.
Mick Heins
2017-11-18 18:58:33 UTC
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Post by a***@yahoo.co.uk
Apparently I was supposed to work it out.
1C (1D) 1H P
2C P 2D P
3D P ?
No-one vuln, imp pairs.
KJT
AJ964
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QJ95
I take it as "bid NT with diamond stopper" and I bid 4C.
--
Mickey

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employers must discriminate against people who have low skills.
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reilloc
2017-11-25 17:44:27 UTC
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Post by a***@yahoo.co.uk
Apparently I was supposed to work it out.
1C (1D) 1H P
2C P 2D P
3D P ?
No-one vuln, imp pairs.
KJT
AJ964
9
QJ95
I agree with the title of your post: 3D means, "What does this (2D) mean?"

I think you probably meant something like, "limit raise in C," or,
maybe, "do you have a D stopper because I have a pretty good hand?" or
perhaps just, "forcing." You didn't explain what your agreement is/was
for 2D. Hearing you, your partner replied, "what does this mean?"

She probably figured that if you meant the limit raise you'd still be
okay, if you were curious about the D, she had them covered and she
couldn't pass.

Then, I suggest, maybe you blew it, again and bid 4C, seeming to sign
off, denying S.

Now, naturally, I could be wrong about all this but, like, you know, I
haven't been up long, haven't finished a cup of coffee and don't have
the insight from experience that a lot of people around here do.

LNC
Player
2017-11-28 00:57:55 UTC
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Post by a***@yahoo.co.uk
Apparently I was supposed to work it out.
1C (1D) 1H P
2C P 2D P
3D P ?
No-one vuln, imp pairs.
KJT
AJ964
9
QJ95
For me 2D asks for a stopper and 3D shows a half stopper.
Sandy Barnes
2017-12-06 00:52:48 UTC
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Post by a***@yahoo.co.uk
Apparently I was supposed to work it out.
1C (1D) 1H P
2C P 2D P
3D P ?
No-one vuln, imp pairs.
KJT
AJ964
9
QJ95
As responder, I would have rebid 3D (splinter) in place of 2D. The cue bid can be misleading, not absolute for club support. Over 3D, as the auction progressed, I would now bid 4D, confirming a control, not interested in no-trump. Partner needs some real cards for 3D, which suggests that he has no diamond card, but is offering 3NT. If he has no diamond card, he has easy rebids over 2D, and 2NT only promises a single stop.
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